We were so excited for our first trip to Turin, Italy, back in the summer of 2015. We knew that the winter Olympics had been hosted there in the past and that the city was closely located to the alps. We also had the good fortune of visiting during a time when the famous Shroud of Turin was going to be on display. In case you didn’t know, the Shourd of Turin was Jesus Christ’s burial cloth that had a bodily imprint left on it. As Catholics, we knew that we were extremely fortunate to have the chance to see this historic garment.
Year 1 Problem 1:Confession time: both times we have visited Turin, we only used the city for its convenience. Although we were very excited to visit, we never spent the night. During our first trip, we had a 5-hour train layover before we had to head into the French Alps. This layover was plenty of time to head to the Shroud of Turin and back. The only caveat was the train we needed to catch was the only train of the day that went to our final destination. If we missed it….we would be in big trouble!
We hopped on a bus and saw The Shroud with no problems. The experience was breathtaking and we really enjoyed the 20 minutes we spent in the famous church. Once we were done with our viewing, we asked a police officer which bus we needed to catch in order to get back to our Porta Susa train station. He directed us down a road and we found out that bus was the wrong one. We went back to the church, around 8 blocks back where we came from and asked a new set of police officers the same question. A little old Italian lady who didn’t speak a lick of English understood our plight and motioned for us to come with her.
We followed her for about 10 blocks and she instructed us to wait for a certain bus. In Europe, during the afternoon, buses generally come every 10 minutes or less. We wait 10 minutes…no bus. We wait 20 minutes…tons of buses come by but not the one we needed. By this time, the Italian lady is getting uncomfortable and looking at us with pity since the bus still hasn’t come. It had been 40 minutes. If you recall, we had to catch the ONLY train of the day or we would be stuck in a city with no accommodations and no transportation.
The Italian lady looks at us and tells us we better hurry and start walking if we ever hope to make it to the train on time. We drag our suitcases for over a mile all while watching the clock carefully. There are two train stations in Turin, Porta Nueva and Porta Susa. When we arrived, the station looked different and we were worried we went to the wrong station. Thankfully, we arrived with 8 minutes to spare and got on our train to France.
Year 2 Problem 2:
Our second time in Turin was April 2016 and the only reason we were visiting was to drop off our rental car because it was cheaper and more convienet than Milan. The plan was to drop off our car, hang around for about 5 hours, and then jump on a bus to Lyon, France.
During our drive back from the French Alps, our rental car got a blowout flat tire. Fun fact: European rental cars don’t come with spare tires…which is super dangerous if you think about it. Although this was really annoying, we were fortunate that the flat happened next to an Italian rest stop right outside of Turin.
The only person who spoke a bit of English was the cook, and he phoned a mechanic. The mechanic came after about a 45 minute wait and informed us that he would have to take the tire to his shop and we were to wait for about an hour. We had lunch, waited, and grew worried that we would miss our bus to France. The mechanic ended up taking an hour and a half before he arrived back. We paid him, and were on our way.
We could possibly make our bus if we wasted NO TIME. Our bus left in an hour and a half and we had a 45 minute drive to Turin Airport, we had to take a train to the city center, take a bus to Porta Susa, and then walk to the bus station. Yeah….no way that was going to happen, but we weren’t about to give up.
We made it to the airport earlier than expected, dropped our keys, and RAN to the train platform. The train wouldn’t come for another 20 minutes. We immediatly got a pit in our stomach and knew that everything had to run smoothly for us to get to our bus on time. This wasn’t helping.
When we arrived in the city, a local told us where to catch the bus to Porta Susa. We headed that way and stood around until another local shouted at us and told us no buses serviced that stop. We had just wasted more time and needed to go back the way we had just came to another stop. By this time, our bus to France was departing without us.
Since we missed our bus, it was time to reschedule and try and find another bus to France later that evening. We had to pay about $50 more, but we found a bus that left Turin at about 8PM. That meant we had a 4 hour wait in the Porta Susa train station. We were okay with that and opened our laptops and began to work and pass the time.
During our wait, we discovered that our Airbnb host in Paris cancelled on us less than 48 hours in advance. The apartment was cheap, in a perfect location, and even had a view of the Effiel Tower. This was a difficult pill to swallow because there was no way we would get an affordable apartment in a good area of Paris at such a late date. Airbnb customer service was actually quite terrible and didn’t help us at all, and we were stuck waiting around for our bus and heading to Lyon with no Airbnb.
Conclusion: Turin brings us bad luck
We wanted to love Turin. We even gave Turin a second chance. But with an experience 10 times worse than the first, we are currently swearing off the Italian town for quite a while because we don’t need more mishaps. For some reason, the universe just doesn’t want us to get along with Turin so we will pay a little extra and stay away in the future.
Do you have anywhere you just don’t think you should visit anymore? Tell us about it in the comments!
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Man… That’s sad to hear! But there are many other places to adventure to!
Salt Lake City. Every time I drove through there on my way to or from Oklahoma (my job with the FAA takes me there for training periodically) EVERY time, I’ve gotten a flat tire. TWICE on a holiday.
That city has it in for me, I swear.
We feel you! Try staying away next time and see what happens! We will be more careful with Turin too 😉
Rome. Went twice but failed to impress. No bad luck though
Oh we didn’t love Rome. No bad luck just didn’t impress us either. The Vatican is a different story though but a country all its own and really shouldn’t be judged with Italy 😉
You didn’t love Rome? Is there something wrong with you? Also, you keep referring to Italians who can’t speak English. Ever thought that you might be the problem by not speaking Italian? Typical ignorant Americans.
Hello! Nope! Rome is NOT a favorite! And we didn’t refer to anyone not speaking English in a derogatory way whatsoever, simply stating the facts for the purpose of the story! We would never expect people to speak English and are actually quite happy if people don’t try to pander to us by speaking English in their own countries!
Andrea, you took words out of my mouth. I am aRussian/American and I guess my respect and ability to see beauty in everything comes from being brought up in a sort of a European city – Moscow. I lived in the US for 17 years and now live in Italy. I have been to so many small and big cities of this incredible country. I have never had a bad experience. Lack of planning and not getting familiar with the city/country before hand is the problem here not bad luck. Italian people are the most welcoming lovely, delightful, generous people I have ever met. What is even the point of this blog entry? All these people who you are mentioning that didn’t speak english actually were helping you. Heard of google translate? Or internet in general? I understand that traveling can be stressful, but don’t complain and blame the whole city for your inability to see positive in minor inconveniences.
Hey Larisa! Recently we re-read this post because everyone keeps saying how we “complained”about the lack of english spoken. During our time re-reading, we didn’t get that vibe at all! We merely stated that people didn’t speak any English and that made it difficult. It was for pure storytelling purposes so people reading the post could understand the experience. We didn’t say we think they should [we don’t and are actually happy when people don’t feel like they have to!] and simply wanted to showcase that the language barrier was a bit difficult. Also, don’t blame a whole city? A local italian lady showed us the bus stop and the bus never came [not for us or any of the people waiting who were getting upset because it was super late] or the fact that our car got a flat tire. That isn’t anyone’s fault, it is just bad luck pure and simple! Thanks for commenting!
I thought the same too. Also if you plan to travel and on a budget this is exactly the results of their misfortune. I believe that this couple are the problem as well
What is wrong with you is right…what is not to like about Rome? what is a city or country that did impress you?
Not to be rude , but you must have been like this blogger that just used rome as a place to return your rental car, even then i cant understand
On the other hand, they say the third time’s a charm, so if you don’t give it a try, the first two horrible experiences were for nothing!
That is very true!!
So you blame a city for you ignorance and incompetency? Lmao.
>don’t speak the language
>don’t know the bus stop and line
>don’t program so that there’s enough time for unexpected, but predictable, accidents
Yeah, clearly destiny, it’s not that you were unprepared.
Sometimes, luck is against you! For that place for us, it was Turin!
Kudos for a polite reply to a mean person. 🙂
Clearly, you guys didnt plan enough time or alternate routes. And, you can get a flat tire anywhere! 5 hours of time isnt enough to enjoy any place. I dont know what you guys were thinking. And here you are complaining about a city based on that.
Sometimes it’s not luck! It’s just general ignorance!
So while this person is very rude. They totally have a point. I’m currently in the beginnings of a 4 month stay in Torino. Being able to communicate in any situation is integral to success. Politics, love, conflict…and yes, travel. Ultimately whether I like it or not, it is my fault if I say something, get help, and it turns out I didn’t make myself clear enough. What makes me so sad about this most is that there is no commentary on the humanity found in a city like Torino. (Also it is Torino, I don’t know why Americans choose to water down another language, but alas, we sometimes do.) I’ve only been here for two weeks and never before have I been stranger and been so welcomed and appreciated. People are helpful, generous, and loving despite the cultural differences that separate us. I know you have a blog to write and with that comes honesty and an authentic representation of what you see. I have to do the same thing with my writing and podcasts. All that writing is, is commentary on the human condition, and ultimately your blog reflects your philosophy on said condition. So, do you bet on humans, or against them?
You’re God damn right!
Sorry torino? You can cut the act!
typical ignorant tourist!
If you want to know the city, people and culture, get involved with them!
This authentic presence of torino and italia is the wealth of this nation.
They have preserved their culture and that does not mean only pizza e pasta e dolce vita!!!
I lived one Year in torino during my erasmus year. It´s a beautiful city and the people are much more friendlier. Yes, the public transportation is not fully developed,it can not be all right. Deal with it, affrontarla!
Come on, don´t back down quickly!
It´s worth to visit torino!!! É vale la pena!
greetings from germany
Instead of Ignorance, it was more of just bad luck! On our second trip, there is nothing we could have done about our tire blowing causing us to miss our bus or our Airbnb host canceling! We are 0/2 with Turin so we are a little afraid to go back! Maybe in a few years we will try and visit again and see how it goes!
Haha Ale I was about to write the same comment!!
@Follow me away: I would never follow you away, always rushing somewhere else and blaming everything and everybody but yourself for almost missing trains, buses etc
How can you comment on a city like Turin after spending only few hours there, while worrying all the time about making it back to the station??
It sounds like speed dating; it takes time to fully appreciate, understand, and love somebody.
Maybe you should learn something from Italians: take it easy and enjoy the little things in life instead of hurrying aimlessly all the time. Next time you’re in Turin for 2 hours of your way to France go get an espresso at Caffè Confetteria Al Bicerin
opened in 1793; Camillo Benso di Cavour was going there, but I’m sure you don’t know who he is. And then get a gelato at Caffè Gelateria Fiorio, opened in 1780, and go for a walk under the ‘portici’ in via Po. Porta Nuova station is not too far, don’t worry.
carissimi, avete ragione, io ci sono nato ma ne sono fuggito, ebbi a che fare con una città presuntuosa, ignorante, indolente, illusa, prepotente, avvilita, delusa, rassegnata, fredda, provinciale, malservita, ostile, dozzinale, distaccata. Mi sono trasferito al mare, in abruzzo, sono rinato emotivamente. Non ci ritornerei per nulla al mondo, mi mette una tristezza infinita. Non consigliabile per viverci. ciao a tutti!!
like another user, this is really dumb reason to write off a city you never even got a chance to explore. you were unprepared, you could have looked a lot of the info about the buses and directions in advance instead of running around lost and relying on street passerbys.
i’ve never been to turin, but it sounds like the people there were very helpful towards you. there is no right or wrong way to travel (for the most part), but if you write off places entirely because you’re incapable of properly navigating them, then you’re probably not getting the most out of it.
Hey! Sadly it wasn’t just about not knowing the public transport. Locals helped us with that and we waited nearly an hour for a bus that never came and probably would never have come. Then the next trip our tire blew out right outside the city. Just bad luck on our end which is why we chose not to chance it again!
This is so sad! It’s such bad luck that you had but heartbreaking that you judged this gorgeous city on your unfortunate transportation mishaps. I am very sad for you because it is a beautiful city with some of the best food in Italy and very fun traditions and kind people. I have not met more polite, hardworking, and humble people than in Turin and much of Northern Italy. It is unfortunate for you that transportation was such a struggle, but I think it very wrong to judge such an incredible place on something that was not within their control. I wish you better luck with your travels but it is such a shame that you blame your experience on a beautiful city.
It’s sounds like you’re blaming all your problems on the people of Turin when the ones you should be blaming is yourself for not planning properly or doing proper research. You also don’t speak the language- you can’t expect everyone to speak English. Also, you can’t blame Airbnb for your host canceling- they have nothing to do with that. Grow up.
Uff
That’s really bad luck! Turin can be nice I guess, but in a hurry and so much bad luck, it’s hard! Good story to read!!
Next time you travel in Europe get a copy of Rick Steves. His books are spot on. Bus
and train schedules as well as travel tips. I never plan a trip without it.
This is a ridiculous post. Typical whiny American, complaingin about irrelevant travel issues. Wow, you had to walk 1 full mile to the bus stop, when you realized your bus wasn’t showing up on time. Sounds horrible. You should understand that when you travel to a foreign country, not everyone will speak English. Figure out transportation, before you utilize it. Be prepared for anything and travel with an open mind. You have the PRIVILEGE of traveling to a another country, enjoy that.
Hey Sarah! We appreciate your comment! We have had a lot of comments like yours which have led us to re-reading our post to see why exactly people respond in the way you do. First, we ALWAYS understand people in other places don’t speak English and we actually hate when they apologize for not speaking English in THEIR home country! In this post, we strictly detailed that people didn’t speak any English for storytelling purposes so our Audience could understand how things were going. Also, we were so upset about the bus because an Italian local brought us there and stood with us there for 45+ minutes along with a ton of other people and the bus never ever came. She was annoyed. They were annoyed. We were scared we would miss our train. We have no problems walking, but standing at a bus that never comes with a bunch of locals who are also very annoyed is not fun! Thanks for your comment.
If you are not italian, eat italian, look italian dont bother go to italy…i regret it especially when you are brown asian
Such moaning people/ Turin was the capital of a sophisticated and powerful kingdom – a key element in the balance of power. It has magnificent architecture and history, food and culture. It should not have to adapt itself to day trippers with a Budget outlook on life – wanting every experience for free – like some enhanced virtual reality. If you can’t get a bus hope in a taxi. If you can’t get an Air B n B stay in a hotel. Doing it all on the cheap is daft – why bother. Why not just go to a diner and look at the world through a phone.
What’s sad about Italy, and I say this as an Italian student, is that almost nobody knows English. That’s really a pity. Plus, I live in Turin and I love it, but I understand these problems.
That is a shame. You missed a beautiful city. I loved it. Funny you did not blame Paris for the cancellation of your accommodation… From what I see about your story, lack of time is to blame, not Turin.
#mimimimimimi
No really, this post does not make sense! But is it a provocation?
The problem is not the city but it’s you .. but do you really travel?
I’m shocked by this post.
This article is absolutely ridiculous. Blaming poor planning and bad luck on a city is cheap and childish. So you got a flat tyre? This could have happened anywhere. So your airbnb cancelled in France and yet you blame it on Turin. Strange rationale. Sorry followmeaway but you won’t be seeing me again!
Great comment!
Don’t complain just because you’re incompetent! People tried to help you!
Next time when you go in any other Italian place :
1. You can search for the bus information, stations, hours, itinerary on the internet or special apps.
2. Think before going. You have to know Everything, every detail possible. Search, call, make sure you have 3 or 4 plans.
You didn’t even know which bus you should take on your way back to Porta Susa… And by the way, it’s Porta Nuova. I believe you could have found a 55 or 56 line for which you could wait maximum for 15 minutes. Never, never later.
So, do your homework before you go somewhere.
I lived in Turin for a year and the city is absolutely amazing. Maybe instead of badly planning and blaming the city/people of your problems, you should maybe PROPERLY visit and actually see the sites there.
Also, the people might not speak English there, but a lot of them speak German, Spanish or French. If you want to be a traveller, maybe try to speak more than one language.
Why are people so aggressive on this post? I guess I got subscribed when I commented long ago and I’ve gotten email updates for years of mean, mean people.
Guys, if you disagree, maybe post a polite comment about how the author can do different next time. It says a lot more about YOU when you are so aggressive and rude to somebody under cover of anonymity.
This is just a fun post about a typical travel story gone wrong, which we’ve all experienced.
Think before you reply!
Thank you Matt for commenting! This is exactly what we are getting at in our story. We never once blamed anyone for not speaking multiple languages and purely included it for storytelling purposes! We also only had a 4 hour train layover and wanted to see the Shroud of Turin which only is displayed once every decade [or so] and we found out about it last minute. It is truly a lighthearted article about our “bad luck’ two trips in a row! If we go back a third time and something else bad happens then we will know for sure 😉
Sounds like you’re neither lucky, rich or intelligent
Hi! I can understand the frustration from all the mishaps and misadventures but I’m wondering why not have grabbed a taxi? I realize that in europe, they only pick up from taxi stands but why chance the bus when you’re in a hurry? I believe theres even an app called My Taxi so you can summon one from wherever you are. Good luck and give Torino another try!
Sadly were on a very tight budget as just graduated students we had no money to spare and any taxis that passed us during our hurried walk were full! 🙁 Now we have $$ and would do things differently on the next visit!
I don’t see a reason to pick anymore on this couple. I wonder how many here are free of mistakes. This is simply a “live and learn” situation. It is important to be well prepared before you embark on any trip abroad. Learn the language or at least the basics to get you around. Locals always appreciate those who try their language. Also learn about the culture of the place you are visiting before you get there and be friendly. Never expect others to know your language and behave according to your own cultural standards. If you are traveling abroad looking for a place that is exactly like your home town, then why traveling? I hope you guys give it another try and spend a few days in Torino.
Why did you have to blame it on the city though? I mean you talk about bad luck but then title your article “Turin you won’t see us again” , which clearly gives the idea of a bad experience based on the city itself.. btw I get it that you were worried about missing your train but in the four hours you spent on your laptop, you could’ve stuck your nose outside the station instead and see what you were missing. Turin has so much more to offer than the shroud which fyi is located in a church that is a minor one compared to the way more beautiful Chiesa di San Lorenzo (at less than 300 mts away) and others. Hope you change your mind and try your luck a third time
That sounds like you were unprepared. You should not blame the locals for not speaking English, you should learn Italian. Turin is wonderful. Do not shame a whole area because you can’t figure out how it works.
Don’t visit GAM , there are fake paintings.
The only ones to lose is you.
Turin is the city with the largest Egyptian museum outside of Egypt, the first capital of Italy with many Regge and is also a beautiful city with origins in ancient Rome.
Without counting the museum of cinema, symbol of the city, the Mole Antonelliana houses this museum.
As an Italian living in Torino, I’m quite disappointed to see that your judgements over a city depend on a series of misfortunes and not on the city itself. As others have said, not planning anything in advance, not knowing anything about public transport (by the way, both the two stations are served by a bunch of lines, you could have chosen among many of them instead of waiting for one specific bus, and also after 20 minutes of waiting even the dumbest person would have left the bus stop and searched for another solution), not getting involved in the local culture, be unprepared and without any alternative can lead you to nothing but stress and failure.
You didn’t visit Torino, you were there – twice! – just to use the city as layover for a bunch of hours, worrying and complaining all the time about the next destination. You didn’t talk a single time in your post about the city, its beauty, elegance, food, museums, kind people, just because you haven’t experienced any of these things! How can you comment a city like that? You have to spend more time in a place to judge it, experience things, not being always in a hurry. And for the Airbnb thing, that’s ridiculous and it escapes from any logic thought, why not blaming Paris or the host? I was in Berlin this summer and on the first day my flight back was canceled by Ryanair: I spent almost an entire day (out of 2) at the airport finding information and a solution, but I didn’t blame the city, the people or anyone else!
In any case, I hope you’ll be wiser travellers next time and I hope you’ll give Torino another chance by spending more time in the city, cause it’s really worth it. In case I’ll be happy to be your guide 🙂 oh, and learn some Italian!
Sorry If I made any mistake, I’m not a native speaker 🙂
Extremely poor post. Too biased, too personally to serve it’s original purpose-which is to enlighten readers.
I have been to Italy, about 5 cities including Turin, and it is nothing like you have described here. I feel like you are just trying to dramatize your account of the events and garner readers..so whatever the case may be.
I’m American by the way…
sure. blame turin. re airbnb… did you see lots of good reviews on your cheap apartment? guessing no. there are no good cheap accommodations in paris. just saying. ignorant American tourists like you go e the rest of us a bad name. oh, and yeah, it is turins fault you had a flat tire. i suggest stay home in your easy chair if you cant handle a few bumps. and so funny is tour best memory us of that sham shroud.
Wow, a lot of these comments are so salty! While the author obviously made some crucial mistakes, I can’t help but laugh at comments like “just learn another language”. Haha! If only it were that easy. Honestly, this sentiment only discourages people from visting (and spending money in) wonderful places. Nobody should be discouraged from visiting a place because they aren’t fluent in the local language, that’s ridiculous. I’ve found that learning some basic greetings and being respectful with a translator on your phone works most of the time. You can type your question in english and it’ll translate for the person you’re asking questions to. Nobody knows every language, but everyone appreciates you being respectful. With all that being said, it’s nice to know which places do or do not speak great English, it’s valuable to other travelers.
And shame on the folks that say “typical entitled American”. Yes let’s stereotype everyone from an incredibly diverse country with over 300 million people. They’re obviously all the same *rolling eyes*. Silly judgemental internet folk.
But most folks in the comments are correct, you need to plan ahead much better and learn bus/train routes, and have spare cash set aside for taxis or Ubers. You can’t write off a whole city because of a few hours of bad luck, that can happen anywhere. And don’t be in such a hurry, vacation isn’t something to be rushed!
Turin should be delighted in not seeing you again…
Like we care
You people are pathetic
Seriously change the name of your site to Two Souless Morons Abroad
I bumped into your blog as I was searching some pictures of my home town Turin. As someone born and raised there, I am very very sorry to read about you experience. For sure public transportation in Italy is not the best, that’s something that really annoys me as well. But the city is really great and deserves something better than being squeezed in an a couple of hours.
About the language problem. I would never expect someone abroad to speak Italian, so why do you expect someone to speak English?
Not saying you need to learn Italian, but maybe be prepared to the fact that communication could be difficult.
That said, I honestly hardly know anyone my age (30) which doesn’t speak English.
Im SO SORRY you got that we were annoyed that someone didn’t speak English. We NEVER expect that and simply added it into the story for storytelling reasons. It was a FACT not a complaint. The lady didn’t speak English and we didn’t speak Italian but she was still super nice and helped us the best she could and we appreciated it. It is disappointing to see so many people take it the wrong way. Thank you for your KIND comment when compared to others but I just wanted to clarify!
I found this post awful! I’m sorry you had poor planning skills. I an American with no Italian background or knowledge lived in Turin for 3 months when I was 18(alone) I had no issues. Sorry you had a bad experience but maybe next time do some more research before you go somewhere and bash on it.
People are just looking for something to be mad about in these comments to show how woke they are. Saying you had bad luck in a place isn’t the same as saying the place is bad. Nowhere in this post does it say that they expected people to speak English. When I’m in the US, I translate for Spanish speakers that don’t know English ALL THE TIME. They don’t expect me to know Spanish but they are happy that I do. Same thing here.
THANK YOU!!!!
You’re judging a whole city by the six hours you spent there? I really can see why this post has annoyed quite a few people.
The reasons have been been given by plenty of other people, but I would suggest going back and spending some actual time there.
I find it absolutely ridiculous to write such a large piece about how bad a city is based on a couple of incidents in a place you didn’t even stay.
Others have made a lot of points in their comments, but I wont harp on you for being unprepared. The misfortunes you experienced could essentially happen to anyone, whether you spoke the language or knew the bus routes.
However! I think it’s a real bad take to title your post what you have, and to blame Turin for “bad luck.” Turin doesn’t have stellar public transport, but neither your flat tire or your canceled Airbnb were the fault of the city.
It would be one thing if you were actually visiting, and came away with this opinion, but to you Turin was just a layover and a place to drop off a car. It seems disrespectful to write a city off for bad luck -which doesnt exist- when you never had an intention of properly experiencing it for it’s own sake to begin with.
Did you know when searching for Turin your nasty little image about not seeing Turin again pops up? Thats why people have ragged on you about your complainy article –
What keyword? We scrolled for 10 pages and couldn’t find it. Thanks1
If that’s true, Kyoshi, then your nasty comment also appears! Maybe you shouldn’t be so mean to people on the Internet.
Its a shame that a Google Image search of the word “Turin” leads to the “Sorry Turin, You Won’t See Us Again” picture and then to this blog post. I think most people would be happy to avoid the ramblings of a person who wishes to avoid a place in the future because: a.) a bus didn’t arrive and a train had to be taken and b.) the car broke down. Your complaints that the inhabitants “didn’t speak a lick of English” is utterly obnoxious and your belief that a city brings bad luck due to some minor mishaps is beyond stupid. I highly doubt Turin is aware of your existence, and if it or its inhabitants did I am certain they would be completely fine with your absence.
???? When did we complain that they didn’t speak English? We were simply saying this for storytelling purposes. We NEVER insinuated that they HAD to speak English or that they were lesser-than. Everyone was VERY nice.
You have a post about never intending to return to Turin due to things that occurred there, therefore it is negative. Within this negative post you mention twice that the people you encountered didn’t speak English. How could one not construe your statements on language inserted for “storytelling purposes” as a complaint? You are aware you placed emphasis their inability to speak English and not your inability to speak Italian right? How can you not see how troublesome that is?
Of COURSE it is our inability to not know Italian! How else do you propose we explain how we couldn’t communicate using our native language other than this? We never insinuated people HAD to. Thanks